
Jeremy Spoon, Ph.d., Assistant Professor of Anthropology, Portland State University; Research Associate, The Mountain Institute
Jeremy Spoon will be a keynote speaker at the NAI National Workshop in Las Vegas, November 16–20, 2010. His interests in local ecological knowledge, environmental sustainability, mountainous protected areas, place-based spirituality, applied anthropology, and political economy have led him on a unique path to interpretation’s door. His focus on connecting indigenous people and interpretation has taken him from Hell’s Gate National Park (Kenya ) to Hawai’i Volcanoes National Park to Sagarmatha (Mt. Everest) National Park (Nepal), and now to the Great Basin, where he has conducted efforts that facilitate people from seven nations of indigenous Nuwuvi (Southern Paiute/Chemehuevi) to tell their stories in the public forum of interpretation.
What are the principles that guide your current project in Nevada?
I am an applied anthropologist, with a focus on indigenous knowledge of the environment and how and why it changes and what the relevance of that knowledge is to sustainability—environmental, social, economic, and so on. I’ve been in this unique position where I am working directly with Native folks to bridge the gap with land managers in protected areas. My collaborators and I work locally with folks to express their lifeways not only to the land managers but also to the public, and I have always walked that path where I am doing both. I partner with not only interpretive staffs, but also land managers, natural scientists, and Native folks. As an outsider, I am effective in bringing an anthropological tool kit that helps projects become context specific, yet use a local-global perspective; however, I am not from these peoples. Therefore it is imperative to bring an insider perspective through mentorship or co-direction as a guiding voice in any effort. I also think a long-term commitment to the peoples I work with ensures projects are more representative and help reach mutually agreed upon goals.
The policies of land managers often do not include humans. Customarily, they look at nature as “other than humans themselves” or they create a nature/culture dichotomy. So part of my endeavors is to bridge that gap with the managers on the governance level as well as with interpreters.
What is the significance of the land in the Great Basin?
In essence, we do work with seven nations that live in four states. The Spring Mountains located on the outskirts of Las Vegas, Nevada, is the creation place for seven nations of Nuwuvi or Southern Paiute and Chemehuevi. Each nation considers what is called Mount Charleston or Nuvagantu (“where snow sits”) as the place where humans came into the world. Related are the nearby Sheep Mountains to be culturally connected to the Spring Mountains in the creation story. They are both part of a complex songscape used to assist Southern Paiute folks when they pass away. The soul can be sung across this traditional territory to rest and continue to be one with their traditional lands. This land is equivalent in the Western mind to their Jerusalem or to their holy land.
I learned a bit about this from doing background research and talking to some key folks. Two years ago, the Forest Service, key Nuwuvi collaborators, and I utilized this relationship as the footing to get the nations interested in participating in an interpretive planning project to help protect this special place through interpretation. Empowering a group of tribally designated individuals called the Nuwuvi Working Group, we co-conducted research on what Nuwuvi wanted to share with the public, which is a huge step in negotiation among Native Americans and many other indigenous peoples. One soon recognizes certain information isn’t meant for the public—it can actually hurt people and the land if shared inappropriately.
To some, this land is only a place of recreation and/or a place where folks in Las Vegas build expensive houses. It is not a Native place right now. To fulfill the goals of protecting that place and having it afford a Native identity, we decided as a group to create guiding rules on what was appropriate to share. Then each working group member recruited folks from their respective nations to conduct or participate interviews with us. In turn, we had those individuals bring their kids, so simultaneously we could bring a unique learning opportunity for participants. Then we took that information and wrote a resource guide, which became the basis for the American Indian content for interpretive planning in the Spring Mountains.
From there, recognizing the value in this collaboration, we were invited by the U.S. Forest Service to comment on an Environmental Impact Statement for proposed developments, which utilized our previous research as the foundation for our position. The Forest Service helped assisted in facilitating the process by providing the group an opportunity to comment during the 45-day period to foster relations with the involved tribes.
This involvement evolved into becoming active members of the architecture and engineering team for the building of interpretive facilities. This team includes building and landscape architects, interpretive designers, and many more specialists. We are part of a dynamic team, so we sit with our partners and help them understand our unique perspectives in order to create concepts that are culturally appropriate. Obviously, not all of the interpretation is about the Native story, but admittedly, we have become a pretty big part.
What role have partnerships played in the process?
We sat at the table to develop some of the concepts, and we communicated that information to the Forest Service in a way that wasn’t adversarial as a true collaboration. We had a significant influence on the proposed undertakings identified in the Environmental Impact Statement. Without a doubt, it has been a really nice experience. I applaud the Forest Service for their openness and foresight in bringing the necessary resources to make that happen. To my knowledge, these nations have never before been involved in a project at these levels where they were asked to participate early enough whereby there is adequate time to participate in meaningful ways.
Concurrently, we have a second project entitled the Nuwuvi Knowledge-to-Action Project, which builds on the relationships that were created in the interpretive planning project. The goals of this project were created by the tribes themselves, and we developed the collaborative methodology together. Recognizing the importance and potential for this project, the nations wrote letters of support for us to get the project. This initiative project is being administered through The Mountain Institute, which has become a wonderful international partner and has taken our work to another spectrum.
We think about these projects not just in relation to Great Basin Natives or Southwest Natives, but in terms of global issues of land management and indigenous rights, resource management, interpretation, and tourism. So this project holistically focuses on government-to-government consultation and resource management, both in the Spring Mountains and in the Desert National Wildlife Complex—totaling more than one million acres in southern Nevada.
In both areas are pinon/juniper habitats have been traditionally managed by Nuwuvi for thousands of years using traditional management techniques such as patch burning and what is called whipping the trees—knocking the cones off the trees so they increase the seasonal yields. Nuwuvi know if you don’t harvest from the trees and manage the forest or interact with the land, it is not healthy. There needs to be human interaction for things to remain in balance. This, in turn, challenges the way things are being managed now, which is to leave them alone or do some fire fuel reduction. We are attempting to revitalize the tradition for potential cultural and ecological reasons, but first and foremost, we are trying to standardize consultation methods with the nations that promote opportunities to interact directly with the Forest Service and with Fish and Wildlife on a government-to-government basis.
Today, more than 80 percent of Nevada is federally controlled and ironically is a wonderful thing in that it gives us greater potential to do collaborative projects. If these were all private land, it would be forgotten.
What have the challenges been in working with multiple, disparate organizations and Native American nations?
People know as much as they have been exposed to or are told. It’s really hard to envision innovative interpretation if you really haven’t been exposed to it or you’ve been told, “We don’t do things that way.”
Also, it’s been a challenge to overcome the preconceived opinions that both sides—the federal agencies and the tribes—have of each other. The best way or tool is through building rapport. The way we explain it is through “Big C” and “Little c.” Big C is federally mandated consultation in an understood and acceptable government-to-government manner. So, if you are doing something that involves ground-breaking activities and you need to rely on some government regulation, that is considered a “Big C.” Conversely, “Little c” is actually having relationships with the individuals and having existing rapport built over time.
We argue that you must have mutually agreed upon goals in order for projects to work. You can’t just follow protocol and/or give the appearance of checking the box. Additionally, you can’t just be friends with everybody without following appropriate government protocols. So to build on past successes, we try to use a balanced approach and walk this line where we can accomplish both.
Where does the funding for the Great Basin project come from?
The interpretive planning and Nuwuvi Knowledge-to-Action projects are funded by the Southern Nevada Public Lands Management Act, referred to as SNPLMA. This fund is comprised of a considerably large sum of money collected by the Bureau of Land Management from selling public land around Las Vegas. Many local federal agencies—Fish and Wildlife, Forest Service, BLM—rely on these funds to support building interpretive facilities or other needed improvements.
Who is your target audience and how does that affect the planning process?
How do you approach the folks of Las Vegas and give them an experience? The demographic of the people who visit protected areas is diversifying. In the past, research identified largely middle-class Euro-Americans, I think at the 95 percent level, mostly doing recreational activities. Today, a lot of that has changed. We are seeing more class-based than ethnic, but I do think some ethnic groups are more represented than ever before. There’s a good amount of Latino, African-American, and Asian-American visitors. And the Native American presence, which is unique and thousands of years old, is gaining the recognition it deserves. Lots of people go up there for all types of reasons, from traditional ceremonies to recreation to gathering with family.
Admittedly, it has been interesting working with consultants who aren’t as familiar with multicultural perspectives or that different visitorship. To the credit of the Forest Service and the current architecture and engineering team, this group is becoming aware and respectful of our process. There has been a big challenge for me to understand the diversity of opinions. I must use this to bridge the gap among the culture of interpretive planning and to communicate the process appropriately to the tribes. I am continually positioning myself right in the middle. I found it doesn’t work if you don’t or can’t translate to both sides.
It has been a really interesting undertaking to think about interpretation in a multicultural way with multicultural stakeholders at the planning table and not just at the receiving end. The culture of planning needs to be regularly adjusted, which is a welcome challenge for me.
How does your personal philosophy affect the projects your work on?
I am an anthropologist who is dedicated to the areas and people where I work. I am not interested in moving on once this is done. I don’t think it has an end. It is a life-long experiential journey. I am really interested building collaborative culturally appropriate management strategies for these landscapes and having lots of folks back on them with cultural revitalization and education programs. This coupled with cultural exchange is the idea behind the interpretive piece. I also hope to perpetuate the transmission of indigenous knowledge from generation-to-generation about these landscapes.
From my experience with these projects, I learned Nuwuvi want visitors to understand and respect the Native perspective and then have their own personal experience. They want the Native perspective to be respected and to provide inspiration, but they do not want their culture misappropriated.
Lastly, they share their fear of expanded development on their land. It must be protected as their creation place and recognized as such. I believe that Nuwuvi can communicate this relationship to the public in creative and respectful ways that represent their hearts and minds. Once we reach that level and when Nuwuvi take their own children to the land to learn about their culture, we will know we did a good job.
Learn more at www.jeremyspoon.com. Find out more about the NAI National Workshop in Las Vegas, November 16–20, at www.interpnet.com/workshop.

Marty Blatt is chief of cultural resources and historian at Boston National Historical Park and is vice president of the National Council on Public History.
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